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« Vastaus #120 : 22.06.2008 11:59:49 »

Erm,

Ensinnäkin, siunaus kannattaa hankkia perimyslinjan omaavalta lamalta. Yksikään
perimyslinja ei (tietääkseni) tunnusta Madame Blavatskya mitenkään oppineeksi, joten
on syytä epäillä hänen oppineisuutensa tasoa ko. aiheesta. Monet opetukset
ovat suullisia ja vaativat vähintäänkin gurujen siunauksen, mikäli haluaa oivaltaa ne ja
siirtää eteenpäin toisille oppilaille.
Toiseksi, ei ole olemassa vanhempaa buddhalaisuutta tai uudempaa. Ellei sitten aleta
puhumaan eri perinteiden historiasta. Ainoa asia mikä tekee henkilöstä buddhalaisen tai ei-buddhalaisen
on neljä dharman sinettiä.
Kolmanneksi, vaikka Kalachakra onkin avoin kaikille, se ei kuitenkaan tarkoita sitä, että sen voisi sekoittaa
muiden uskontojen kanssa (puhumattakaan niiden näkemyksistä!). Buddha Shakyamuni
antoi sen yhtenä viimeisimpänä opetuksena ja siunauksena tämän ajan olennoille.
Siitä ei pääse yli eikä ympäri. Tunnistaessa puun, tietää myös hedelmien maun.
En vähättele tässä muiden uskontojen perustaa, polkua tai hedelmää. Mutta niiden
sekoittamista keskenään voisi verrata siihen, että yrittäisi matkustaa kaikilla busseilla samaan aikaan.
Tosi sekavaa!  idiot2
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Some are tortured with initiation rites,
others say 'hum', 'phat' and always count their rosary,
others eat shit, piss, blood, semen and meat,
others meditate the yoga of channels and winds,
but all are deluded

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« Vastaus #121 : 22.06.2008 12:14:07 »

...

Eli kysehän on tässäkin ainoastaan siitä polariteetin luomasta harhasta, joka poistuu siinä vaiheessa ihmisen sieluista ikään kuin itsestään. Koska silloin, kun tämä on jokaiselle mahdollista, ei polariteettia tässä muodoissaan enää ole ja vasta silloin on Rauhalla mahdollisuutta ilmentää itseään täällä maan päällä, koska jokaisen tunne-elämä on tasapainossa.  Smiley
Tässä vaiheessa kaikki uskonnot dogmeina ovat tarpeettomia  angel
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Sideerisesti:
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« Vastaus #122 : 22.06.2008 12:25:42 »

Eikös sitä sanota, että jokainen uskonto versoaa samoista juurista jokainen ollen lehtinä ja oksanhaaroina siinä suuressa puussa, joka maailmoja kasvattaa...

Tai voisivat ne olla palapelimaisuuksiakin kosmisessa kuvajaisessa.. Laatikoita ja lokeroita kyllä löytyy...

Ja joskus ne voivat tukea jopa henkistä masturbaatiotakin Grin 
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« Vastaus #123 : 22.06.2008 13:40:23 »

Jopa valitettavasti ole ainoastaan henkista mastubraatiota-on tullut ilmi myos fyysista mastrubaatiota-kuten muissakin uskonnoissa on tullut ilmi,joten poistamista rittaa.

Vajra-sinulla on mielenkiintoinen nimimerkki ja vastauksesi ovat nasevia ja oikeita.
Nain on , kun tunnistamme puun-tiedamme hedelman maun.
Mutta Kalchakra hyvaksyy kaikki uskonnot ja tarkoituksemme on tehda kaikista uskonnoista yksi-4:lla Dharman periaatteella, aika nayttaa.
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« Vastaus #124 : 22.06.2008 15:40:50 »

Mutta Kalchakra hyvaksyy kaikki uskonnot ja tarkoituksemme on tehda kaikista uskonnoista yksi-4:lla Dharman periaatteella, aika nayttaa.

Anteeksi Diamond, mutta olen ymmärtänyt asian hieman erillä tavalla: " Jokainen uskonto ja niiden harjoittajat hyväksytään sellaisenaan. "

Lainaus
Eikös sitä sanota, että jokainen uskonto versoaa samoista juurista jokainen ollen lehtinä ja oksanhaaroina siinä suuressa puussa, joka maailmoja kasvattaa...

Osa uskonnoista hyväksyy eläinten tappamisen osa taas ei. Silloin ei voi sanoa, että kyseessä
olisi sama puu, sillä seuraukset kyseistä toiminnasta (tai sen harjoittamisen lopettamisesta) eroavat toisistaan. Voihan se olla niin, että sinä olet oivaltanut kaiken. Siinä tapauksessa pyydän
anteeksi typeryyttäni.

Lainaus
Ja joskus ne voivat tukea jopa henkistä masturbaatiotakin

Haluaisitko kertoa mitkä ovat syyt henkiselle masturbaatiolle ja mitä seurauksia siitä syntyy?
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Some are tortured with initiation rites,
others say 'hum', 'phat' and always count their rosary,
others eat shit, piss, blood, semen and meat,
others meditate the yoga of channels and winds,
but all are deluded

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« Vastaus #125 : 22.06.2008 16:08:13 »

Kylla Varja, hyvaksymme KAIKKI USKONNOT, mutta se juuri on tama uusi uskonto-enhan minakaan ole Buddha.
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« Vastaus #126 : 22.06.2008 16:24:20 »

Itse näen kuitenkin sen uuden uskomusjärjestelmän olevan ihan muuta kuin mikään entinen uskonto tai muukaan New age-järjestelmä. Sillä se tarkoittaa lähinnä sellaista ihmisen OMAN sisäisen tietoisuuden kasvua siiten, että ymmärtää itse olevansa se kaikki, mitä on eikä siten kukaan edes voi olla mistään erillisenä. Edes tällä maan päällä, koska jokaisen on luonut se samainen Luoja.

Jotenka mikään niistä entisistä uskonnoista ei ole kyennyt tällaista tekemään, vaikka sitä ymmärrystä olisi lisätty ihmiselle kuinka paljon vaan edelleenkin kukin niistä omista dogmeistaan kiinni pitää. Kunnes tapahtuu siihen se suurenmoinen muutos, jolloin korkeampi tietoisuutemme tulee kaikille alas ja SE meidät kaikkeuteen yhdentää!  Wink smitten
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« Vastaus #127 : 22.06.2008 16:53:40 »

Kaarina, en viela ehtinyt kirjoittaa neljasta Darma sinetista-juuri ymmartamisen kasvu-uudet energiat tulevat VOIMALLA-kait nain on tarkoitettu.
Haluan lisata tahan taman Laman elamankertomuksen-jos jaksatte lukea-ehka patkittain

REINCARNATIONS
Known under the name of Phende Rinpoche Jamyang Kunzang Chos Chi Gyamtso, my present reincarnation is considered to be the incarnation of the great sage Birwapa, the master of yoga whose renown, like the sun and the moon, shines everywhere.
The sage Birwapa is one of the 84 Siddhas or "greatly realized beings" of the supreme country of India, and his reputation is great in Buddhist countries. Nevertheless, no one knows entirely the story of his life, because no one has ever been able to fathom the exact meaning of his actions. In any event, it will be beneficial for current disciples to have some knowledge of him, and in the following we will present several outstanding events in his life which demonstrate the greatness of his qualities and learning.
Here is, first of all, a short dedication to Birwapa: 

Praise to him who divided the waters of the great river,
and who, after having drunk all the beer,
stopped the course of the sun.
Prostrations to he who is called Birwapa. 

Birwapa was born around 1200 years after the Nirvana of the master of us all, the Buddha. The master of yoga Birwapa, who is also named Palden Chos Chiong, the "fearless", was born the son of king Zahor, in India.  But rejecting the prospect of ruling the kingdom, he received the novices’ vows from Abbot Dulwailha and from master Gyal ba Drapa at the temple of Song ma puri, in eastern India and erected numerous monasteries and statues. Thereafter, at the temple of the great monastery of Nalanda, he received the monks’ vows, from Abbot Dharma Mitra. Under the direction of that abbot he carried out the triple activities of study, reflection and meditation,  From the same abbot, he obtained the initiations and teachings of Khorlo Dem Cho and other Yidams. He successfully mastered the ocean of the various teachings and became a great abbot, outstanding among all the learned  people of Nalanda. During the day, he demonstrated the triple monastic activities of teaching, argument and composition, while at night, he practiced the teachings of Dem Cho. Even though his practice of Khorlo Dem Cho was very inspired, one night he had a terrible vision in a dream, in which a river reversed its course, and the sun and the moon fell to earth, and mountains crumbled. He thought: "From now on, I will no longer practice the meditations of the Yidams, but will only carry on with the activities of monastic life".  Making this vow, he threw his rosary into a toilet. That same evening, the venerable Dorje Damema appeared to him under the form of an ordinary, blue-coloured woman. "Noble son, don't act in this wrong way. Take back your rosary, wash it in perfumed water, and resume your practice. I am the deity with which you have a karmic relation and I will protect you".
So the master did as he had been advised, and the night of the 23rd day of the month Sa-Ga, Damema and the 14 goddesses of her Mandala appeared before him. He received the four empowerments and attained the "first Land". Thus it was that the flow of empowerment remained unbroken. 
Having obtained the intuitive vision at the moment of the empowerment, the blessings’ lineage remained unbroken. 
Having understood that all the preceding dreams were signs of his drawing near to attaining the "lands and paths", he was capable of transforming faults into qualities and obstacles into powers. It is thus that the essential teaching was verified and its lineage continued. 
Then, having gained the certainty that his understanding had become undifferentiated with that of the perfectly realized Buddhas, his mind was overwhelmed with joy and faith. Thus, he obtained the blessings of the four oral lineages. 
Abiding in Samadhi, each day he obtained a "land" of a higher level. It's thus that on the night of the 29th, he became a great Bodhisattva that is established in the "sixth land". While he was abiding in this state of intuitive understanding, numerous surprising events happened, which aroused suspicion in many people. Seeing this, Birwapa himself declared:  "I am bad". And as his actions appeared strange, they asked him to leave the monastery. He began to sing: "Oh! Poor venerables!...".  Then he departed. When he reached the road to Varanasi, along the  banks of the Ganges, he said to the river: "Since I'm bad, I won't touch you. Leave me an open road". On uttering those words, the river separated in two, and Birwapa walked on the thus opened path.
The monks then understood that he had attained Realization, and asked for his forgiveness. In the woods of Varanasi, he stayed for a long time in a single Samadhi, without concerning himself about food or clothing. The king of Varanasi, Govinda Tsandra, learned of his presence, and asked his subjects to inquire so as to ascertain whether this yogi was good or bad. As no one could say, the king ordered that he be thrown in water, that he be brought to execution, that one bury him in a hole, and that one crush him under a  mass of iron. But, even though the orders were carried out, each time Birwapa reappeared free, in front of the king, before the executioners who had fulfilled the orders, were able themselves, to return. Then the king and his followers requested his forgiveness, and Birwapa converted them to Tantric Buddhism.
He then arrived on the banks of the Ganges, on the road which led to Bhimisara, in the south, but the ferry pilot refused to take him to the other side of the river if he didn't pay. "Very well. I can  give you water from the river". Saying that, Birwapa displayed the conjuring sign and once again separated the river in two. Then he snapped his fingers, and the river returned to normal. The ferry pilot had faith in him and beseeched him to accept him as his disciple. He was called Drombhipa.
The two of them went to buy some beer from a lady named Kamarupa Sadhidha, in the south, at Dakini Pala. She asked them "When are you going to pay?" Birwapa then drew a line between the shadow and the sun, and promised: "I'll pay when the rays have passed this line". It's thus that having stopped the sun, he drank all the beer in the tavern. The distance between the shadow and the light didn't move even the width of a finger, and time passed by. Beings were reeling from lack of sleep. 
Having understood that this event was due to the power of that master of yoga, the king of the country beseeched to him to let the sun resume its course, and paid the price of the beer. Immediately, the sun set. It had stopped for nine days and nights.  His reputation was spread in all directions.
At Bremehaser, in the south, he also carried out numerous miracles that filled people with faith. Among the disciples, there was Napopa, with his luxurious hair, who came from the east. Both master and disciple carried out deeds of great importance. Drombhipa equaled Birwapa in understanding. He was thus called Drombhi Heruka. The master sent him to the east in India to submit the king of Deha of the country of Rada. Then, Birwapa and Napopa went to Diwikoti before the statue of Chenrezi Khasarpana. The statue said to him: "You have carried out great acts, but seeing beings are all different, act thus in a compassionnate and skilful way."  Therefore, Birwapa founded temples, established monks in them, and also protected the lives of thousands of animals. Having imparted the essence of the teaching of Lamdre ("the path including its fruit") on Napopa, that disciple obtained the same level of understanding as Birwapa. 
Birwapa was then invited to the country of Ogyan by the king’s messengers. There, he composed fundamental treatises which were very concise. Then, obeying the Grand Compassionate One, for the good of all beings, he absorbed into a statue. And by this statue’s power to transform what was placed in its hands into gold objects, he made very many beings happy.
In conclusion, no one like Birwapa has worked for the Dharma with such extraordinary yogic powers. His reputation as a master of Dharma reached everywhere, like air. 

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MY FOLLOWING INCARNATIONS
Among the numerous incarnations of Birwapa, that of Khen Chen Palden Chos Chiong, of the monastery of Ngor E Wam Chos Den, in Tibet, was predicted by the founder of Ngor, Ngor Chen Dorje Chang Kunga Zanpo. That he is an incarnation of Birwapa is equally evidenced by  the story of his life. His name, Palden Chos Chiong, is one of the names of Birwapa. He was born in the year of the water Horse of the 12th cycle. At a very young age, he proved to be a great saint, rich in knowledge of the three teachings, and he then sat on the throne of Ngor E Wam Chos Den. Due to the force of his previous studies, his knowledge was such that no one dared to compare themselves to him. In meditation, he truly met the five most important Lamas of Sakya, and as in a real conversation, where speakers answer from one to another, by his questions, he could  clear up all his doubts. Each time he received the teaching of a deity and that he practiced it, he encountered it and was able to collect its words. All the Protectors of the Dharma, Mahakala, Genpo Tranze, Palden Lhamo... served him.* His teaching was of great benefit for the doctrine and all beings. He had innumerable disciples of all schools throughout Tibet. His arguments were as strong as a Dorje, and by his knowledge of the Buddha’s Words  and his own inner understanding, he was able to reduce to powder false doctrines which were hard as rocks, and to vanquish the ignorance of vain beings. For the good of beings who came seeking after him, he composed very clear treatises that accorded with the thoughts of the Buddhas. Thanks to the strength of his previous realization and the two qualities of merit and of intuitive wisdom, he attained the high realization level, and worked so as to benefit countless beings. He remained on the throne of Ngor E Wam Chos Den for about eight years (instead of  the habitual length of three years). He was the first lama of the house of "Phende".  Having been invited to China by the kings La-Ndu and Tsang-ndu, he became their lama. And likewise for the king of Derge, Tenpa Tsering. Additionally, he established innumerable beings on the path to liberation in the province of Kham. The coming of king Tenpa Tsering was predicted by the Buddha. It is this king that printed the Kangyur and the Tengyur, as well as most of the treatises of the great lamas of Tibet. He founded the great printing-factory of Derge. In Tibet, in Ladhak, in China, to the west and to the east of Tibet, up to the country of Tsini and of Ngothen, thousands of Sakya monasteries were also founded by him.  Palden Chos Chiong proclaimed religious rules that are still observed today. Concerning his wealth and power, they are comparable to that of the Master of Beings before him, Chos Gyal Phagpa of Sakya who was the lama of the king of China Sechen, and the temporal and religious leader of all provinces of Tibet. Those who desire to know more on this subject can consult the two large volumes on the story of his life in the edition of Derge. Having carried out many great things for the benefit of beings, Palden Chos Chiong passed into Nirvana when he was 58, at the monastery of Derge, on the 17th day of the first month of the earth Rabbit year of the 13th  cycle. His body was placed in a seated position in a large golden stupa, that was constructed at the instigation of the great king of Derge, Tenpa Tsering and other disciples.  Khen Chen Palden Chos Chiong, the incarnation of Birwapa, is the first Lama in the lineage of Phende Rinpoche. 

The second in this lineage is his incarnation Ngawang Tenpa Rinchen Chosnze, who was born in central Tibet, and who, after having accomplished great things for the good of beings, died quite young as well.
The third of the lineage was the Khen Chen Ngawang Lodreu Zangpo incarnation, who was born in central Tibet and who directed the monastic college of Ngor.   
The fourth in this lineage was born in Kham and also died after having directed the college of Ngor. 
The fifth in this lineage, Khen Chen Jamyang Kunzang Thubten Chos Chi Gyaltsen, was born in Kham and died after having directed the college of Ngor. I am, myself, considered as the reincarnation of the preceding Lama, under the name of Jamyang Kunsang Chos Chi Gyamtso, Phende Rinpoche, sixth in the lineage.   

COUNTRY AND FAMILY OF BIRTH   
My country of birth is Tibet, a country of snowy mountains in which the Buddha prophesized that the teachings would spread, a country of a pure faultess sky, clear and blue as lapis lazuli, a country of rivers and clear springs, a land protected by the Buddhas and their Sons, and which thus became a source of the precious Dharma. Tibet is made up of three parts, the upper of Ngari, that is like a pool, the central part of U and of Tsang, that has four mountains, laid out like a handle, and the lower part of Do Khams with six mountain chains, as immense as a field to cultivate. In this last part of Large Tibet, the region of Gava, of which the form is like a "Gava Chilpa" jewel, and from which it takes its name, shelters one of the four large rivers of Khams, that which is called "Ndru tchu" ("river of gold"), because in the sand that is carried by the water,  are to be found hidden large quantities of pure gold. This land, that is protected by the best of the guardians of the white directions, He who is called the Great Bodhisattva Sepongdorje, known and venerated throughout Tibet, is surrounded by mountains of eternal snow of which the peaks are lost in the sky, filled with multi-coloured flowers and innumerable mountain antelopes, wild goats, deer and other animals that come near the houses fearlessly, because no one hunts them. It's in this country of prairies and mountains, and that is rich in varieties of minerals and in hot springs with curative powers, that I was born. 
I was born in the family of Agni, a family with a great reputation as powerful Tantric yogis who succeeded one another, with amongst them, the  powerful Ga Agni Tampa Kunga Tra, the great realized sage, the disciple of the great Chos Jyal Phagpa. Throughout the region, one called on the Agni ("Tantric  yogis") when it came to protecting the harvests of the three monasteries and eight countries from hail, or when one needed  it to rain, in the event of prolonged drought. And, they possessed the specific powers and teachings, while also enjoying the protection of the principal Nyingmapa and Sakyapa Dharma Protectors. 

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THE SEARCH FOR THE NEW REINCARNATION   
It's to my father Tandrin Dorje and my mother Sonam Lhamo, in the Agni family of Gava that at daybreak, on the 27th day of the 12th month of the Water Bird year, of the 16th cycle, (beginning 1934) a son was born, whose birth was preceded and accompanied by numerous auspicious signs. The water that was kept in the kitchen became the color of milk. The sun shone forth, while lotus-shaped snowflakes with eight and four petals fell hard to the ground. Seeing this, the great scholar, sage and yogi, Jamguen Ngawang Lepa who, not far from there, lived in his monastery of Tharlam, and was a matchless holder of the Sakyapa doctrine, spoke to his servant: "Today, the boy that is born in the family of Agni is certainly a great reincarnation (Tulku). It is an exceptional time and in this family, for a long time, great holy beings have been born without interruption. In this noble family of Agni of the great Tampa, will be born great Tulkus for a long time". Thus he spoke to his servant Kunga Chosdar, and all the numerous  disciples present could hear and spread his words.
This family already had three sons and a daughter. The eldest of  the sons, whose true name was Jamyang Thubten Zangpo, had  already been recognized as a great reincarnation, that of the great  Lama of the monastery of Jyekundo and was thus known under his title of Enepo Chiap Gen Rinpoche, who was directing this monastery of Jyekundo, which was called Chie Gu Ten Droup Ling, that famous  monastery, the source of all the teachings of the Sutras and Tantras, the holder of the tradition of Sakya, Ngor and Tsar, which possessed a college of teaching and a college of practice that was renowned for the purity of the monastic rules, and permanent housed more than a thousand monks. 
A month after my birth, my parents brought me close to the great master Jamguen Ngawang Lepa who gave me the White Tara initiation, and the name Jamyang Kunga Tenpa Rap Djiai (which means:"Jampeyang, loved by all, who furthers the Doctrine") and gave these guidances  to my parents, telling them to watch particularly "that this child always be kept clean, because he will become, according to his hopes, a holder of the doctrine of the Sakyapas". It's thus that the Lama Ngawang Lepa became my first root Lama, almost from the time of my birth.

Later, when I was about one year old, I received refuge from that same Lama, who offered a lock of my hair to Buddha: on this occasion, Jamguen Ngawang Lepa made renewed prayers and good wishes for my future destiny. When I was two years old, I was recognized as the reincarnation of Ngor Phende Khen Chen Jamyang Kunzang Thubten Chos Chi Jyaltsen, thanks to the prophecies of two Lamas who were the heads of the two Palaces of Sakya, the holder of the throne during this period, Ngawang Thutop Wangchuk of the Palace of Phuntsok, and Chiap Gen Rinpoche Kunga Rinchen of the Palace of Dolma. Actually, after the death of Ngor Phende Khen Chen, the other Lama of the house of Phende who was called Ngawang Khedroup Jyamtso, and who was the cousin of the deceased lama, as well as his treasurer, the search to find the new incarnation had begun. While making offerings to all the monasteries of Tibet, he had asked that the Lamas and monks of the monasteries of the three Sakyapas’ branches engage in reciting prayers, rituals and carrying out all virtuous works such as remodelling temples, building statues, etc., in the hope that a reincarnation of the deceased Lama, as well as his recognition, would occur quickly. He also requested of the two lamas of Sakya, to carry out their examinations; so the latter went to the two most famous temples of Sakya that are dedicated to the Protectors: that of Gorum Ngen Khang, dedicated to Ngenpo Kur, and that of Menbar Ngen Khang of Kaoutrazong, dedicated to Ngenpo Shaljipa, where these two protectors that are possessed of powerful blessings, actually reside. The two Lamas there carried out the extensive rituals and obtained then certainty due to clairvoyance that the new reincarnation had already happened. They then gave a description in writing, of the place and of the family where the new reincarnation was born, which was so precise and detailed that all were filled with faith and certainty. Following the customary prayers of introduction and of conclusion, this writing said in substance: "In Greater Tibet (the name for Khams), near a white stupa of Gava, like a jewel of the same name, in the country of the river Ndrou chu which bears gold, above the monastery of Tharpa Ling, at the spot where the two rivers join, in the family of Agni, who holds the lineage of the Ancients (Nyingma) of the Great Secret,  of which the father is Dorje and the mother is Lhamo, in this house whose fence’s door faces east, and whose eastern door faces south, on the 27th day of the 12th month of the Water Bird year, was born a son who is the excellent reincarnation of the great Abbot of Ngor, Phende Jamyang Kunzang Thubten Chos Chi Jialtsen, the heir and continuator of the great Ngor Chen Dorje Chang Kunga Zangpo whose coming  for the benefit of all beings was announced by the Buddha. As the length and the continuation of the precious doctrine of the Buddhas, source of all kindness and happiness, depend on the birth of such great holy beings, who are the lineage holders, all beings of Tibet in general and particularly those of Sakya, Ngor and Tsar should rejoice in this birth." 
Having shared these revelations at the monastery of Ngor Ewam Chos Den, all knew that the reincarnation was born in Kham and the Lama of the house of Phende, Ngawang Khedroup Jyamtso with Tandrin Gen Po, cousin of the deceased Lama, as well as a group of 15 people, prepared to leave for Khams.  When reaching the monastery of Chie Gu Ten Drup Ling, they made the good news known to all.
Some time later, the same group went to the house of the Agni family, and revealed to the parents the high rank of their son, who was then about two years old, and they shared with them the letter of recognition drawn up by the two great Lamas of Sakya, and which gave to the young Tulku, the name of Jamyang Kunga Tenpa Tar Jiai;  this amazed everyone because, even as close as to one word, this name was identical to that which was given to him earlier by the great Ngawang Lepa. As the parents feared being separated from their very young son, it was decided that they would keep him near them until the age of seven and up until that time, he will go to study near his paternal uncle Ngawang Rinchen, who was the head-teacher of the monastery of  Tharlam, right near the house of Agni, and who also followed the teachings of Lama Ngawang Lepa. After that, I was offered scarves, protection strings and traditional yellow silk clothes and the Lama gave me the Dorje Namjom Mewatse purifications as well as the initiations of Long Life,  of White Tara and of Tsepame and Tandrin together.
MY ENTRY INTO THE DHARMA   
Sometime afterwards, at the age of four, on the occasion of the great festival of the birthday, enlightenment and Nirvana of the Buddha, I was carried to Lama Ngawang Lepa, who for the first time, made me repeat the 30 letters of the Tibetan alphabet thrice, and gave me precious Jampeyang and Yangchenma-pills, the wisdom-deities, as well as a red protection string. Then, the Lama asked me to open my mouth, and he blew in his breath, as a sign of blessing. 

MY LAMAS AND MY STUDIES
From this moment on, I went every day to my uncle, so as to first learn to read and write. From my preceptor, I received the oral transmission (lung) of the Precious Kanjur (collection of the Words of the Buddha) and began to learn, by heart, the very many practice-texts which are customary to the Sakyapa school: Saddhanas, prayers to the Lamas, mandala-rituals, Tantras, etc.. A little later, during three months, from Lama Ngawang Lepa, I received the Lamdre Loshe (the Path and its Fruits) teaching, of the fundamental Sakyapas’ teaching, at the Tharlam monastery, in the company of many monks. Even though, at about six years old, I was the youngest of all, I was placed at the head of the row, and it was upon me that the Lama bestowed all his attention and care, so as to teach me the right way to use the ritual-objects during the initiation, the mudras, etc..  This Lama, Jamguene Ngawang Lepa, possessed such powers and  blessings that all, once they had received his teaching, saw their understanding and wisdom increase. 
Lama Ngawang Lepa had spent 18 years in a vow of total silence, in a Gepadorje (skt. Hevajra) and the Lamdre-retreat, and he obtained to frequently meet, at will, the body of transcendental wisdom and his supreme deity, undifferentiated with the Lama, as well as It’s words and predictions, as can be seen by consulting his biography written by his disciple, Tulku Anjom.  From this excellent Lama I received a very great number of teachings, including the two Lamdres, the explanation of the Liberation of the  Four Attachments, the Kyedorje cause and path-initiations, the Birwapa-protections, the deep paths, the Naro Khatche initiations-blessings  with the extensive "Paldom Trupa" commentary, the great seven Mandalas-initiations of the Ngorpa tradition, the Tsar tradition’s initiation of Jig-je and his eight "Rolang"-ensemble, as well as the commentaries of Jig-je, the initiation of Kur Ngen alone and that of Kur Ngen with eight divinities, the corresponding commentaries, the Shaljipa-initiation, those of Tutreu Dakpo, of Mazorma,  Tandrin, Chanadorje, Chung Thra, Sengdongma, Junpo Ndulje, Green Dolma, White Dolma as well as the commentary, of Chenrezi of the king-tradition, of Tsepame and Tandrin together, of Loma Chenma, Kunrig Nampar Nanze of the Yogatantras, of Tsepame with nine deities, Min Thrupa, of the Medicine Buddha, of Jampeyang and Sakya Pandita together, of Orange Jampeyang, of Jampal Arapatsa,  Dorje Namjom, of Ngen Kar, etc.:
I received all of these teachings in the full manner, complete with the initiations, "Lung" and essential teachings, as well as many others that would take too long to describe here. From the time of the teaching of the Lamdre, after each period, along with my uncle and tutor, I would daily practice the exercises and yoga-practices, while continuing my studies of the texts at the same time.  It’s thus that, at the age of seven, I knew, by heart, the rituals of the Mandalas of Kye Dorje, Tsepame with nine divinities, of Kunrig Nampar Nanze, Jampal Tsen djiai, Dorje Min Thrupa, etc...
It was at that age that, as had been agreed to several years earlier, I was enthroned at Zuphu Ladrang which was a part of the house of Phende, not far from my family's house. On the thirteenth day of the first month of the rabbit-year, Phende Khen Rinpoche, Ngawang Khedrup Jiamtso, together with Tandrin Ngenpo and some 20 horse-riders, arrived at my family's house to invite me. The next day, as replacement for the body of the young Lama that they were going to take, they offered to the monastery of Tharlam, (that, according to custom, those that were born in the region depended upon) a golden statue of the Buddha, a little taller than himself, as a support of the speech, the precious Kanjur collection, and as a support of the mind, a Chorten (Stupa), as well as various other objects.  Finally, the enthronement was held on the 15th of the first Tibetan month, on the anniversary-day of the Miracles shown at Nyen Ye by our master the Buddha, so as to tame the six heretical masters. 
The day began by a travel of several hours, on horse-back, from the  monastery of Tharlam to Zuphu Ladrang. Escorted by a retinue of 300 monks and lay people of the monastery of Tharlam, I set out between the lines of monks and lay people holding various objects of offering and accompanied by the music of the trumpets, the wind-instruments and drums, in the incense-scent and the perfume-essences of pine, sandal wood, etc., that were being burnt all along the way.  As soon as I had left the monastery, a following of several thousand people, including the emissaries from each of the 21 Sakyapa monasteries from the region, and the lay people from the areas that had been passing through, and those from Zuphu, came to meet me, so as to accompany me to Zuphu Ladrang, each of them carrying various objects for offering, scarves, incense, and walking to the music of the trumpets, wind instruments and drums, etc..  Arriving at Zuphu Ladrang, starting from the next day, I was taken to the temple where I sat on the high throne that was attributed to me.  And a long ceremony began, during which diverse prayers and commentaries as well as the mandala of the universe were offered to me, and I in turn, had to recite, alone, a very long commentary on the dedication of virtue, for at least a full hour,. 
Then, the representatives of the 21 Sakyapa monasteries of Gava, as well as the leaders of the region, the disciples of the previous deceased Lama and numerous donors, who were all present,, as a sign of good omen, offered to me innumerable offerings such as of supports of the body, speech and  mind, or of gold, or silver or of pieces of silk and brocade, of horses, of mules and yaks, etc... After the rituals to the Protectors, each night, for three days, dances and chants by the people of Zuphu were held as offerings. My parents stayed by my side at Zuphu Ladrang for a month, and then they left for home, leaving me with my teacher and uncle. 
From this time on, I had to follow a program of intensive studies. Waking early in the morning with my tutor, I had to carry out a long period of recitations and meditation of the daily practises.   Then, my personal servant would bring us tea and the morning meal which was followed by a short period of recitation and meditation of other practices. Then, I would study the rituals of the mandalas and initiations and other Tantric rituals, as well as the explanations and commentaries of  the philosophical treatises. Then, we would both take the noon meal which was followed by a short time of recitation and of relaxation which I would spend with my  parents whenever one of them came to visit me for several days each month at Zuphu Ladrang. My parents never failed to encourage me in my studies, showing me that this was indeed the best way to thank them for their kindness as parents and that I should study very much so as to be able, as my role as Lama required, to give good teachings to all those, scholars or ordinary beings, who would come and request them. Returning to my tutor, I would then have to recite and explain in front of him that which I had learned in the morning. After this daily examination came lessons of writing in the three or four Tibetan scripts. Furthermore, I learned mandala-rituals and philosophical treatises by heart. Then, after a medium-length session of reciting and meditating of Saddhanas, I would carry out the Tormas offerings and the long Protectors-ritual. Then, we would have the evening meal, followed by a long period of meditation and dedication and concluding-prayers.  Finally came the time for going to sleep, as meanwhile, trumpets' and oboes' music was played by the monks outside, on the roof of the temple.
(to be continued shortly.)

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« Vastaus #130 : 22.06.2008 17:12:51 »

Eikohan tassa ole hiukan esimakua tasta Lamasta-hanen oppilaansa on minun opettaja.
He tietavat ja ymmartavat niin aarettomasti.
Toivottavasti jaksatte lukea siina Juhannuksen sivussa-haha
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« Vastaus #131 : 22.06.2008 17:42:17 »

Osa uskonnoista hyväksyy eläinten tappamisen osa taas ei. Silloin ei voi sanoa, että kyseessä
olisi sama puu, sillä seuraukset kyseistä toiminnasta (tai sen harjoittamisen lopettamisesta) eroavat toisistaan. Voihan se olla niin, että sinä olet oivaltanut kaiken. Siinä tapauksessa pyydän anteeksi typeryyttäni.

Sillä puulla tarkoitin elämän puuta, jossa jokainen asia ja olento mikä tahansa olemassaoleilee kiertokulussaan.. Niin uskonnot kuin kaikki vierivät kivetkin toimittavat sen syleilyssä tehtäviään.

Hieman uskomusta siitä:
http://www.odinsvolk.ca/O.V.A.%20-%20COSMOLOGY.htm

Ja ei tartte pyytää anteeksi, sillä olen hahmottanut vasta himpun verran kosmisesta palapelistä  buck2


Lainaus
Haluaisitko kertoa mitkä ovat syyt henkiselle masturbaatiolle ja mitä seurauksia siitä syntyy?


Hei, nyt mentiin jo yksityisyyksiin joten jätän pohdinnan omakohtaiseksi  Grin

Mutta jonkun puute ja siitä syntyvä tarve voisi olla kyseessä...
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« Vastaus #132 : 22.06.2008 18:03:55 »

Lainaus
Sillä puulla tarkoitin elämän puuta, jossa jokainen asia ja olento mikä tahansa olemassaoleilee kiertokulussaan.. Niin uskonnot kuin kaikki vierivät kivetkin toimittavat sen syleilyssä tehtäviään.

Näyttää siltä, että kannatat eräänlaista New Age tyyppistä ajattelua, jossa kaikella on kosmisessa
suunnitelmassa oma "mystinen tehtävä". Muistan erään Hare Krsna kaverin, joka hieman närkästyneenä
kirjoitti Vishnun inkarnaatiosta. Hän pyrki parhaansa mukaan välttämään integroimasta muita ajatusmalleja
uskontonsa näkemykseen...

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Some are tortured with initiation rites,
others say 'hum', 'phat' and always count their rosary,
others eat shit, piss, blood, semen and meat,
others meditate the yoga of channels and winds,
but all are deluded

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« Vastaus #133 : 22.06.2008 20:37:39 »

Niin, jokaisella elamanpuun oksalla on oma tehtava-olkoon sitten karmaista perintoa tai ei.
Mutta meilla jokaisella on oikeus MUUTTAA ajatusmaailmaamme meille sopivammiksi ja nykymaailmaan sopivimmiksi.
Oksiahan leikataan puusta jotta hedelmat olisivat entista ehompia, maata muokataan ja kastellaan-olkoon se sita hengellista uudistumista.
Kaarina on ihan oikeassa, etta pelkojen poistaminen on melkein peruste ihmisen hengelliseen kehittymiseen,
parempaan minaan ja siina ei tarvita uskontoja vaan sisaista viisautta ja oikeudenmukaisuutta.
Kysyn vain, kuka auttaa kivia pyorimaan?
Kivet eivat ala itsekseen pyorimaan tarvitaan pyorittaja-haha
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« Vastaus #134 : 23.06.2008 11:08:01 »

Näyttää siltä, että kannatat eräänlaista New Age tyyppistä ajattelua, jossa kaikella on kosmisessa
suunnitelmassa oma "mystinen tehtävä". Muistan erään Hare Krsna kaverin, joka hieman närkästyneenä
kirjoitti Vishnun inkarnaatiosta. Hän pyrki parhaansa mukaan välttämään integroimasta muita ajatusmalleja
uskontonsa näkemykseen...



Kuhan vain kikkailen ei muuta  Grin

Jos haluaisi saada selville mistä Avatarismissa on kyse niin pitäisi ottaa yhteyttä itse Vishnuun.. Jokaisessa kun se myöskin asusteleepi...
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